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Installing Hitch on my Subaru Outback

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Hello,

I would like to mount 3 bicycles on my outback. The options are to get a roof mount or install a hitch and bike mount.
Hitch way looks easier.

For installing a Hitch, the dealer is asking a $720.
Dealer also mentioned that they a "after market" accessory shop and connected me there. They quoted me $350 for hitch with install.

I also spoke to a subaru mechanic, who lives me in my neighborhood. he does some work on side on weekends. He told me that i can get a hitch from etrailer.com and he would charge me $40 /hr, i am guessing hour and half to installed. Etrailer has 16, outback hitch for around $130.

Any advice appreciated.

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I've used Etrailer and installed myself. They have good brand hitches (Curt, draw-tite) and include hardware - price is right too. You can look them up yourself on etrailer after you put in your vehicle info - they even have estimated install times on the website.

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I've installed 2 Etrailer hitches for the same purpose - bike hitch rack. It's not hard. You can watch the install video so you understand exactly what needs to be done. In one I had to cut some plastic pieces, the other was basically bolt it on.

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I had Rack N Road install one on a 2017 Outback last year--think it is a Curt hitch. The total cost, with tax, was $437. RNR did an awesome job.

I'm pretty handy with tools, but I would never attempt on my own--too much downside risk--liability, damage to car and loss of bikes (especially if you have expensive bikes).

I was also concerned that the hitch not extend out too far behind the car. The installer was good about tucking it under the bumper--usable but not ugly.

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Another vote for e-trailer and DIY (or pay your friend $40/hour). I recently bought (from e-trailer) and installed a hitch on my wife's vehicle. They provided good, clear installation instructions and free shipping. The only difficulty I encountered was lack of an appropriate hole saw to enlarge an existing frame hole, but a quick trip to the hardware store took care of it.

For what it is worth, installing the hitch was easy enough that I did it with a broken foot in a walking boot (I'm full of good ideas). I recommend grabbing a jack and jack stand (or two) to help hold the hitch in place while you try to bolt it up, if you don't have a helper.

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I put 2" square hitches on all my cars. Outbacks, Crosstrek, Wrangler. Our bike rack is on a 2" receiver, so I can put it on any of the cars. My son put the most recent etrailer one on our Crosstrek, which is more difficult than an Outback. The outback hitches could be installed by a blind monkey with a pair of scissors and a paper clip.

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sksbog wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:15 pm He told me that i can get a hitch from etrailer.com and he would charge me $40 /hr, i am guessing hour and half to installed.

etrailer is a superb online retailer. Their video how-to's and reviews are second to none on the entire internet. I give them my business whenever cost is close with other options.

With that said, check Amazon as well to see if there is a warehouse deal. Other than that, etrailer seems very price competitive.

Also, it took me about 30 minutes to install a hitch my car. I can't imagine it taking much longer unless you live in a cold climate (possibility of frame threads that the hitch bolts to being rusty from ice/salt on the roads).

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A Subaru Outback generally requires drilling holes into structure in order to install the hitch. The holes are 1/2 inch in diameter and the metal is thick (maybe 1/4"?).

Are you comfortable drilling holes into your car unibody?

What you can do is have UHaul install the hitch only and not install the wiring harness. That will save you a lot of money.

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sksbog wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:15 pm

I also spoke to a subaru mechanic, who lives me in my neighborhood. he does some work on side on weekends. He told me that i can get a hitch from etrailer.com and he would charge me $40 /hr, i am guessing hour and half to installed. Etrailer has 16, outback hitch for around $130.

I did exactly this except I went to a local shop that charged me shop rate of $100. Dealership is overpriced.

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I think a properly installed hitch is worth it. I got one at the dealer as part of the negotiating tactic. I think the dealer should just install it for free to you. They are ripping you off if they tell you $720. I think you should call their bluff. As for installed price I paid, the line-item was about $300. nadaguides.org shows the "Dealer Installed Option" of a trailer hitch to have an invoice price of $279.
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I don't think they needed to drill holes in my Subaru Outback to install the dealer-supplied hitch. The install was relatively quick, too.

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gmc4h232 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:44 pm What is the point of hauling bikes with a car? Cant you just ride the bikes?

Races, going on vacation, driving out to scenic rides that are far away...A million different reasons. We take our bikes on vacation (Utah to SoCal), my wife does races all over the state.

We have a trunk trailer, but I think I am going to get a hitch and associated trailer on our jetta for the wife for Christmas.

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livesoft wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:50 pm I think a properly installed hitch is worth it. I got one at the dealer as part of the negotiating tactic. I think the dealer should just install it for free to you. They are ripping you off if they tell you $720. I think you should call their bluff. As for installed price I paid, the line-item was about $300. nadaguides.org shows the "Dealer Installed Option" of a trailer hitch to have an invoice price of $279.
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I don't think they needed to drill holes in my Subaru Outback to install the dealer-supplied hitch. The install was relatively quick, too.

I'm not sure what year you have, but it's a required step for 2010 and newer Subarus. The holes are not predrilled.

It takes someone experienced about an hour or so to do it.

Past cars I have installed myself, but I never had to drill holes before. I opted to pay someone to install it on the current car.

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miamivice wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:59 pm I'm not sure what year you have, but it's a required step for 2010 and newer Subarus. The holes are not predrilled.

My car is a 2018 purchased less than a year ago.

As far as what I negotiated, we ended up at a $300 difference, so I said, "I'm not going to pay another $300 unless you give me something in return, what have you got? Let me look at the 'accessories' booklet please?" So I looked and picked trailer hitch and said, "And that's 'Installed', right?"

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livesoft wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:50 pm I think a properly installed hitch is worth it. I got one at the dealer as part of the negotiating tactic. I think the dealer should just install it for free to you. They are ripping you off if they tell you $720. I think you should call their bluff. As for installed price I paid, the line-item was about $300. nadaguides.org shows the "Dealer Installed Option" of a trailer hitch to have an invoice price of $279.
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I don't think they needed to drill holes in my Subaru Outback to install the dealer-supplied hitch. The install was relatively quick, too.

Subaru dealerships are likely compelled to install only the factory hitch which, although attached in the structurally strongest fashion at the bumper bar's own structural mount points for Gen4 and Gen5 Outbacks, also sports a 1-1/4 inch receiver (at least, the early Gen5 got this, but I see its part number was L101SAL010, a slightly different # from the one listed in the graphic, so maybe they have responded to US demand since then). Those who feel wedded to a particular rear-ender rack with a 2 inch stinger and object to the rearward displacement of an adapter may therefore prefer an aftermarket hitch that mounts on the underside of the unibody (This is actually how I got my factory hitch for $100 on craigslist. It probably took 90 minutes to install, but freeing the bumper fascia was a lot of that.)

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miamivice wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:27 pm A Subaru Outback generally requires drilling holes into structure in order to install the hitch. The holes are 1/2 inch in diameter and the metal is thick (maybe 1/4"?).

Are you comfortable drilling holes into your car unibody?

What you can do is have UHaul install the hitch only and not install the wiring harness. That will save you a lot of money.

I am not a handy person and i am not comfortable installing it myself.

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sksbog wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:27 pm

miamivice wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:27 pm A Subaru Outback generally requires drilling holes into structure in order to install the hitch. The holes are 1/2 inch in diameter and the metal is thick (maybe 1/4"?).

Are you comfortable drilling holes into your car unibody?

What you can do is have UHaul install the hitch only and not install the wiring harness. That will save you a lot of money.

I am not a handy person and i am not comfortable installing it myself.

Are you willing to call the dealer and see what the charge for hitch only and not the harness? I don't know if they will do that, but Uhaul charged something like $200 or $250 for the harness. Since you are using yours for bikes, you don't need one now and can install it later if needed in the future.

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miamivice wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:27 pm A Subaru Outback generally requires drilling holes into structure in order to install the hitch. The holes are 1/2 inch in diameter and the metal is thick (maybe 1/4"?).

I don't think this is true, at least not any more. I bought a hitch from etrailer.com that they said would fit my 2001 Outback, and it lined up perfectly with pre-existing holes on the chassis. Just needed a decently long wrench to really honk down on the bolts to get them good and tight.

I can understand someone not wanting to do this themselves, but as long as the hitch fits the vehicle, a mechanic shouldn't be charging for more then half an hour, in my opinion.

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LinusP wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:59 pm

miamivice wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:27 pm A Subaru Outback generally requires drilling holes into structure in order to install the hitch. The holes are 1/2 inch in diameter and the metal is thick (maybe 1/4"?).

I don't think this is true, at least not any more. I bought a hitch from etrailer.com that they said would fit my 2001 Outback, and it lined up perfectly with pre-existing holes on the chassis. Just needed a decently long wrench to really honk down on the bolts to get them good and tight.

I can understand someone not wanting to do this themselves, but as long as the hitch fits the vehicle, a mechanic shouldn't be charging for more then half an hour, in my opinion.

It's true for 2010 and newer Outbacks.

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miamivice wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:06 pm

LinusP wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:59 pm

miamivice wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:27 pm A Subaru Outback generally requires drilling holes into structure in order to install the hitch. The holes are 1/2 inch in diameter and the metal is thick (maybe 1/4"?).

I don't think this is true, at least not any more. I bought a hitch from etrailer.com that they said would fit my 2001 Outback, and it lined up perfectly with pre-existing holes on the chassis. Just needed a decently long wrench to really honk down on the bolts to get them good and tight.

It's true for 2010 and newer Outbacks.

It appears that etrailer.com has at lease some hitches that are labeled "no drilling required" - see https://www.etrailer.com/hitch-2010_Sub ... +Wagon.htm

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I negotiated a hitch installation on my 2016 Outback when purchased. It seems that Subaru will only warranty the power train if a factory hitch is installed with a 1.25" receiver. Subaru feels any other hitch may torque the chassis form whatever load may be on the non-factory hitch. Might be worth checking with your dealer frien to confirm.

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Kudos to those of you that can install a hitch yourself.

I just watched the etrailer video for installation of the hitch I bought for my 2017 Outback. Drilling at least two new holes is definitely required--as is widening two existing holes.

BTW my $437 cost did NOT including wiring--the hitch was for a bike rack. And it is a 2" hitch.

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LinusP wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:14 pm

miamivice wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 3:06 pm

LinusP wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:59 pm

miamivice wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:27 pm A Subaru Outback generally requires drilling holes into structure in order to install the hitch. The holes are 1/2 inch in diameter and the metal is thick (maybe 1/4"?).

I don't think this is true, at least not any more. I bought a hitch from etrailer.com that they said would fit my 2001 Outback, and it lined up perfectly with pre-existing holes on the chassis. Just needed a decently long wrench to really honk down on the bolts to get them good and tight.

It's true for 2010 and newer Outbacks.

It appears that etrailer.com has at lease some hitches that are labeled "no drilling required" - see https://www.etrailer.com/hitch-2010_Sub ... +Wagon.htm

I would read the instructions before assuming that is the case. I just looked at one of the Curts advertising "no drilling required" and the instructions say differently.

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You want a 2" EcoHitch receiver hitch. It installs the same way the factory hitch does. It's part of the rear bumper. You have to remove and cut the vinyl bumper cover to create clearance for the hitch. The install directions including cutting the bumper cover are identical to the factory hitch. You can google the factory hitch on any Subaru parts site and download the PDF install instructions. Any auto body shop will gladly do the work if you don't want to DIY.

I screwed up and had U Haul install a bolt-on hitch. You get what you pay for. Don't do that.

The plug for the wiring harness is on the side in the rear halfway between the lift gate and the back seat on the drivers side. You remove the plastic between the glass and the floor and connect an aftermarket controller. Leave the plug in the spare tire well and feed it out the tailgate on those rare occasions when you tow. I made that mistake. After 4 years, my trailer plug is all corroded.

I have the good Thule receiver hitch bike rack with the integral locks. It's a really good rack but it's heavy. I store mine in the garage. I wouldn't want to move it more than 20 feet on a regular basis. You can get an optional second carrier that slides into the main one to hold another two bikes.

Beware that the bike rack blocks the rear camera. I've become really reliant on it. I don't leave the rack on the car if I'm not using it. See the "It's a heavy mo-fo" comment above.

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ofckrupke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:15 pm Subaru dealerships are likely compelled to install only the factory hitch which, although attached in the structurally strongest fashion at the bumper bar's own structural mount points for Gen4 and Gen5 Outbacks, also sports a 1-1/4 inch receiver (at least, the early Gen5 got this, but I see its part number was L101SAL010, a slightly different # from the one listed in the graphic, so maybe they have responded to US demand since then). Those who feel wedded to a particular rear-ender rack with a 2 inch stinger and object to the rearward displacement of an adapter may therefore prefer an aftermarket hitch that mounts on the underside of the unibody (This is actually how I got my factory hitch for $100 on craigslist. It probably took 90 minutes to install, but freeing the bumper fascia was a lot of that.)

I would look into that if you're still covered by the powertrain warranty. A 2" hitch implies a certain amount of carrying capacity (e.g. more than a 1 1/4" which is about all a Subaru can pull). A 2" hitch is really what you want for universal plug and play with hitch accessories (but there are adapters as ofckrupke mentions). If you have a powertrain warranty issue, they could be wondering if you were pulling a 5000lb trailer with that hitch and no wonder something broke or over heated. Maybe if it comes with a proper label for what your Outback is rated to pull and that label is on the hitch you'd be OK.

The old lady who only drives the car to church on sundays is the same old lady who only puts bicycle racks in her 2" trailer hitch.

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sksbog wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:15 pm

I also spoke to a subaru mechanic, who lives me in my neighborhood. he does some work on side on weekends. He told me that i can get a hitch from etrailer.com and he would charge me $40 /hr, i am guessing hour and half to installed. Etrailer has 16, outback hitch for around $130.

Any advice appreciated.

thanks

If you are not doing it yourself, this is the option I would pick.

btw I just installed a hitch on my VW SportsWagon this weekend, had to remove the whole bumper fascia, and their excuse for a bumper. And the right and left light assemblies. cut a hole in the fascia as well underneath.
Looked intimidating, but just take it slow and easy or have your mechanic do it.
Pro install for mine was rated time wise as one hour.
I took 3 hrs. Don't rush.

I looked up a 2018 outback, I would choose the Drawtite, as it is hidden and no drilling, but very much like the install of my VW.
E-trailer has the hitch for $208 install time 2 hr
Carid has it for $155 install time 45 min
Draw-Tite 76227

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suemarkp wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:48 pm

ofckrupke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:15 pm Subaru dealerships are likely compelled to install only the factory hitch which, although attached in the structurally strongest fashion at the bumper bar's own structural mount points for Gen4 and Gen5 Outbacks, also sports a 1-1/4 inch receiver (at least, the early Gen5 got this, but I see its part number was L101SAL010, a slightly different # from the one listed in the graphic, so maybe they have responded to US demand since then). Those who feel wedded to a particular rear-ender rack with a 2 inch stinger and object to the rearward displacement of an adapter may therefore prefer an aftermarket hitch that mounts on the underside of the unibody (This is actually how I got my factory hitch for $100 on craigslist. It probably took 90 minutes to install, but freeing the bumper fascia was a lot of that.)

I would look into that if you're still covered by the powertrain warranty. A 2" hitch implies a certain amount of carrying capacity (e.g. more than a 1 1/4" which is about all a Subaru can pull). A 2" hitch is really what you want for universal plug and play with hitch accessories (but there are adapters as ofckrupke mentions). If you have a powertrain warranty issue, they could be wondering if you were pulling a 5000lb trailer with that hitch and no wonder something broke or over heated. Maybe if it comes with a proper label for what your Outback is rated to pull and that label is on the hitch you'd be OK.

The old lady who only drives the car to church on sundays is the same old lady who only puts bicycle racks in her 2" trailer hitch.

This makes no sense. You can exceed the Outback towing capacity with a 1 1/4" receiver just as much as with a 2" receiver. My 2015 6-cylinder is rated for 3,000 pounds. I believe Subaru dialed it back to 2,700 in newer model years of the 5th generation Outback.

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miamivice wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:27 pm A Subaru Outback generally requires drilling holes into structure in order to install the hitch. The holes are 1/2 inch in diameter and the metal is thick (maybe 1/4"?).

Are you comfortable drilling holes into your car unibody?

What you can do is have UHaul install the hitch only and not install the wiring harness. That will save you a lot of money.

Uhaul should be an ok option, but I was able to install my Draw-Tite hitch on a 2013 Outback without drilling by instead removing the bumper trim (instructions can be found in the Subaru OEM hitch installation guide), and fishing the nut plates into the frame rails through the ends.

Doing that adds a bit of extra time, although drilling holes isn't difficult either if you have a decent drill and hole saw set. The hard part was just getting the muffler off its rubber mounts to lower it clear of the install area. They were very difficult to lever off.

It looks like Draw-Tite and Curt also both now have models that mount sandwiched between the bumper and the frame, which should also be a no-drill installation.

suemarkp wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:48 pm I would look into that if you're still covered by the powertrain warranty. A 2" hitch implies a certain amount of carrying capacity (e.g. more than a 1 1/4" which is about all a Subaru can pull). A 2" hitch is really what you want for universal plug and play with hitch accessories (but there are adapters as ofckrupke mentions). If you have a powertrain warranty issue, they could be wondering if you were pulling a 5000lb trailer with that hitch and no wonder something broke or over heated. Maybe if it comes with a proper label for what your Outback is rated to pull and that label is on the hitch you'd be OK.

I think this falls under the reasonable use provision of the Magnuson Moss warranty act (15 USC §2304 (c)). Basically, the warrantor should have to show unreasonable use (such as exceeding the towing rating, or not following severe duty maintenance intervals if towing regularly) caused the failure in order to deny a warranty claim.

Regardless, it is common for a hitch to exceed the towing capacity of the vehicle it is mounted on.

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suemarkp wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:48 pm

ofckrupke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:15 pm Subaru dealerships are likely compelled to install only the factory hitch which, although attached in the structurally strongest fashion at the bumper bar's own structural mount points for Gen4 and Gen5 Outbacks, also sports a 1-1/4 inch receiver (at least, the early Gen5 got this, but I see its part number was L101SAL010, a slightly different # from the one listed in the graphic, so maybe they have responded to US demand since then). Those who feel wedded to a particular rear-ender rack with a 2 inch stinger and object to the rearward displacement of an adapter may therefore prefer an aftermarket hitch that mounts on the underside of the unibody (This is actually how I got my factory hitch for $100 on craigslist. It probably took 90 minutes to install, but freeing the bumper fascia was a lot of that.)

I would look into that if you're still covered by the powertrain warranty. A 2" hitch implies a certain amount of carrying capacity (e.g. more than a 1 1/4" which is about all a Subaru can pull).

I'm not sure what part of my post you didn't understand. Some other guy ordered his Gen4 Outback with factory installed hitch and upon delivery didn't like that it had the 1-1/4" receiver. So he had it removed, and an aftermarket hitch installed, and posted the OEM parts on CL, which I bought. So I have the subaru-designed and thusly approved hitch, with any apparent limitations to towing capacity of the smaller receiver form. (Note that since on Gen5 the Subaru hitch replaces the stock bumper beam rather than living beneath it, my seller's retrofit process would have involved securing a replacement for that too, had this all happened after 3Q2014.) So while it might be someone else's concern if not for the Magnuson Moss warranty act, it would not be mine.

But since the weak point of the Gen4 factory hitch setup is the lesser of shear strengths of
a) whatever 5/8" diameter pin is used to secure a payload stinger or
b) the pin's bearing support on the walls of the receiver,
I am also pretty sure that even the factory 1-1/4" setup has ample reserve strength for drivetrain abuse by a vacuous hauler.

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ofckrupke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:19 pm

suemarkp wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 5:48 pm

ofckrupke wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 2:15 pm Subaru dealerships are likely compelled to install only the factory hitch which, although attached in the structurally strongest fashion at the bumper bar's own structural mount points for Gen4 and Gen5 Outbacks, also sports a 1-1/4 inch receiver (at least, the early Gen5 got this, but I see its part number was L101SAL010, a slightly different # from the one listed in the graphic, so maybe they have responded to US demand since then). Those who feel wedded to a particular rear-ender rack with a 2 inch stinger and object to the rearward displacement of an adapter may therefore prefer an aftermarket hitch that mounts on the underside of the unibody (This is actually how I got my factory hitch for $100 on craigslist. It probably took 90 minutes to install, but freeing the bumper fascia was a lot of that.)

I would look into that if you're still covered by the powertrain warranty. A 2" hitch implies a certain amount of carrying capacity (e.g. more than a 1 1/4" which is about all a Subaru can pull).

I'm not sure what part of my post you didn't understand. Some other guy ordered his Gen4 Outback with factory installed hitch and upon delivery didn't like that it had the 1-1/4" receiver. So he had it removed, and an aftermarket hitch installed, and posted the OEM parts on CL, which I bought. So I have the subaru-designed and thusly approved hitch, with any apparent limitations to towing capacity of the smaller receiver form. (Note that since on Gen5 the Subaru hitch replaces the stock bumper beam rather than living beneath it, my seller's retrofit process would have involved securing a replacement for that too, had this all happened after 3Q2014.) So while it might be someone else's concern if not for the Magnuson Moss warranty act, it would not be mine.

But since the weak point of the Gen4 factory hitch setup is the lesser of shear strengths of
a) whatever 5/8" diameter pin is used to secure a payload stinger or
b) the pin's bearing support on the walls of the receiver,
I am also pretty sure that even the factory 1-1/4" setup has ample reserve strength for drivetrain abuse by a vacuous hauler.

1 1/4" receiver hitches are invariably Class II. 3,500 pounds. That exceeds the tow rating of the Outback. Pretty much anyone installing an aftermarket hitch is going to use Class III and 2" because it's a much bigger market for toys that slide into it. If you buy a premium toy like a bike rack or ski carrier and want to sell it later, it's hard to sell a 1 1/4". SUVs invariably have 2" receivers.

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GeoffD wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 6:45 pm Pretty much anyone installing an aftermarket hitch is going to use Class III and 2" because it's a much bigger market for toys that slide into it. If you buy a premium toy like a bike rack or ski carrier and want to sell it later, it's hard to sell a 1 1/4". SUVs invariably have 2" receivers.

Though I was aware of these points at the time, they were and remain of little concern to me.

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sksbog wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 12:15 pm Hello,

I would like to mount 3 bicycles on my outback. The options are to get a roof mount or install a hitch and bike mount.

I have a 2015 and am looking at the trunk bike carrier from Thule that holds three bikes. We have two adult bikes and one kid 20" bike. Why do you say the only options are roof and hitch for three bikes?

If that is not an option, I am like you and would never attempt to install a hitch on my own.

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Very timely topic as i bought a 2018 outback not too long ago and would like to get a hitch installed too.
My friend installed the EcoHitch on his 18 outback, doing the work himself, but I'm hesitant about affecting the warranty. The dealer quoted me around $700 total (I'm in Orange County, CA) for the OEM install, which I believe is the 1 1/4" hitch. I'd like a 2" for accessories and for possibly towing a light trailer.

Looking at the EcoHitch website, they have a search tool to find certified installers. https://torkliftcentral.com/ecohitch-locator/
What I'm not sure about though is whether this would still affect the warranty or not.. need to call my local shop and ask!

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playtothebeat wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:27 pm Very timely topic as i bought a 2018 outback not too long ago and would like to get a hitch installed too.
My friend installed the EcoHitch on his 18 outback, doing the work himself, but I'm hesitant about affecting the warranty. The dealer quoted me around $700 total (I'm in Orange County, CA) for the OEM install, which I believe is the 1 1/4" hitch. I'd like a 2" for accessories and for possibly towing a light trailer.

Looking at the EcoHitch website, they have a search tool to find certified installers. https://torkliftcentral.com/ecohitch-locator/
What I'm not sure about though is whether this would still affect the warranty or not.. need to call my local shop and ask!

I installed an EcoHitch 2" receiver for my 2016 Outback to haul a kayak trailer. I did not like the idea of drilling through the frame. eTrailer is a great resource - but it was cheaper from the company. Watch several videos just to get different perspectives. Easy to do with a second pair of hands. You can borrow the torque wrench & extension from AutoZone if necessary. The wiring harness install was fairly easy as well.

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LuckBeALady wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 10:01 pm

Jack FFR1846 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:14 pm The outback hitches could be installed by a blind monkey with a pair of scissors and a paper clip.

Great. Now I'm going to have to go ahead and try it myself.

Totally got me thinking of installing my own as well. Unfortunately, it looks like the install on 2019 Foresters is more complex. :confused

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miamivice wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:27 pm A Subaru Outback generally requires drilling holes into structure in order to install the hitch. The holes are 1/2 inch in diameter and the metal is thick (maybe 1/4"?).

Are you comfortable drilling holes into your car unibody?

What you can do is have UHaul install the hitch only and not install the wiring harness. That will save you a lot of money.

Sorry, but you are misinformed. I installed an aftermarket hitch on my 2007 Outback, and no drilling was required. I also did extensive research on installing a hitch on a 2018 Outback when preparing to purchase one, and most hitches required no drilling. I ended up getting a dealer-installed hitch as part of the negotiation process.

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tcassette wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:41 am
Sorry, but you are misinformed. I installed an aftermarket hitch on my 2007 Outback, and no drilling was required. I also did extensive research on installing a hitch on a 2018 Outback when preparing to purchase one, and most hitches required no drilling. I ended up getting a dealer-installed hitch as part of the negotiation process.

According to etrailer, available hitches for a 2007 outback require no drilling and most they rate as 3/10 difficulty with 30 minute install time.

Contrast that with the 2018 outback and you have a choice between drilling or not drilling your frame.
If you choose drilling, the installation difficulty is 6/10 with a 1 hour install time.
If you choose no drilling, install difficulty is 10/10 with a 2 hour install time.

Who's misinformed?

OP - if you want to carry 3 bikes on a hitch rack - you're probably going to need a 2 inch hitch. I can't recall seeing a 3+ hitch rack which can be fitted to a 1 1/4" hitch.

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I have a 2013 outback, had to drill but talking to a mechanic that is pretty standard and as long as they spray the hole there is no concern for rust or anything. I'd also go with the 2 inch receiver, makes more sense if you want to haul anything else as its more universal. Downside is the subaru really has no towing capacity for anything but a bike rack.

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I installed a Curt hitch on my Impreza 3 years ago with little trouble. The hitch itself cost $110 and fit perfectly.

If you can turn a wrench and don't mind lying on your back for a while.

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tcassette wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 9:41 am

miamivice wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2019 1:27 pm A Subaru Outback generally requires drilling holes into structure in order to install the hitch. The holes are 1/2 inch in diameter and the metal is thick (maybe 1/4"?).

Are you comfortable drilling holes into your car unibody?

What you can do is have UHaul install the hitch only and not install the wiring harness. That will save you a lot of money.

Sorry, but you are misinformed. I installed an aftermarket hitch on my 2007 Outback, and no drilling was required. I also did extensive research on installing a hitch on a 2018 Outback when preparing to purchase one, and most hitches required no drilling. I ended up getting a dealer-installed hitch as part of the negotiation process.

I'm sorry. I own the same car as the OP and had a hitch installed. I first investigated the options to DIY and then decided against it based on drilling.

You do not have the same car as the OP. You have an older model with a different body style. The fact that no drilling was required for your car does not mean that I am misinforming the OP who has the same vehicle (make, model, and year) as me.

Regarding your 2018, did you actually read the instructions or watch YouTube videos on installing the hitches? If you did, you'll find that drilling is actually required.

If not, please point me to the abundance of hitches for a 2018 Subaru Outback that require no drilling. Or better yet, the OPs car, a 2010 Subaru Outback.

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feh wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:01 pm I installed a Curt hitch on my Impreza 3 years ago with little trouble. The hitch itself cost $110 and fit perfectly.

If you can turn a wrench and don't mind lying on your back for a while.

Your car is an Impreza and the OP is clear that he is asking about a Subaru Outback. A Subaru outback requires the ability to drill into the unibody which is also the vehicle frame. It also requires messing around with the muffler. And maybe cutting the heat shield above the muffler. It's a little more involved than just turning a wrench.

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I installed Curt 2" hitch last year for our Forester. It took me about 5 hours which is definitely longer than most. I did need to drill some holes and unhook and move the muffler around. Not sure if it was worth it to diy but I would probably do it again. The hitches go on sale and I got mine for about $80.

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miamivice wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:32 pm

feh wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:01 pm I installed a Curt hitch on my Impreza 3 years ago with little trouble. The hitch itself cost $110 and fit perfectly.

If you can turn a wrench and don't mind lying on your back for a while.

Your car is an Impreza and the OP is clear that he is asking about a Subaru Outback. A Subaru outback requires the ability to drill into the unibody which is also the vehicle frame. It also requires messing around with the muffler. And maybe cutting the heat shield above the muffler. It's a little more involved than just turning a wrench.

Here are the full instructions for one of the Curt hitches for the 2010-current Outback:

1. Remove the tail light plastic push fasteners with a straight and phillips screw driver and the (2) screws with a
10mm socket.
2. Pull each tail light rearward and unhook the wiring connector to remove the lens.
3. Using a screw driver, remove the (3) push fasteners in the rear wheel wells holding the bumper cover. If mud
flaps are present, remove the (3) screws holding on each side as well.
4. Remove the (7) push fasteners along the edge of the bumper cover with a straight screwdriver. When
removed, work from one side and gently pull the bumper cover away from the vehicle.
5. Remove the foam from the bumper beam to access the bumper beam bolts. Remove the (8) bumper beam
bolts with a 14mm socket and remove the bumper beam.
6. Fold the center bumper cover mounting tab flat against the rear bulkhead of the vehicle. Raise the hitch and
bumper beam back into position on the studs, center and loosely reinstall the nuts removed in step 5.
7. Torque all 10mm fasteners to 42 lb-ft.
8. Reinstall bumper beam foam and trim the bumper cover as shown in the Bumper Cover Trim diagram above.
9. Reinstall the bumper cover, mud flaps (if present) and tail lights.

I don't see the words "drill", "muffler", or "cut" anywhere. Full installation guide with pictures here: https://assets.curtmfg.com/masterlibrar ... 10_INS.PDF

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lazydavid wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 3:37 pm

miamivice wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:32 pm

feh wrote: ↑Tue Apr 02, 2019 12:01 pm I installed a Curt hitch on my Impreza 3 years ago with little trouble. The hitch itself cost $110 and fit perfectly.

If you can turn a wrench and don't mind lying on your back for a while.

Your car is an Impreza and the OP is clear that he is asking about a Subaru Outback. A Subaru outback requires the ability to drill into the unibody which is also the vehicle frame. It also requires messing around with the muffler. And maybe cutting the heat shield above the muffler. It's a little more involved than just turning a wrench.

Here are the full instructions for one of the Curt hitches for the 2010-current Outback:

1. Remove the tail light plastic push fasteners with a straight and phillips screw driver and the (2) screws with a
10mm socket.
2. Pull each tail light rearward and unhook the wiring connector to remove the lens.
3. Using a screw driver, remove the (3) push fasteners in the rear wheel wells holding the bumper cover. If mud
flaps are present, remove the (3) screws holding on each side as well.
4. Remove the (7) push fasteners along the edge of the bumper cover with a straight screwdriver. When
removed, work from one side and gently pull the bumper cover away from the vehicle.
5. Remove the foam from the bumper beam to access the bumper beam bolts. Remove the (8) bumper beam
bolts with a 14mm socket and remove the bumper beam.
6. Fold the center bumper cover mounting tab flat against the rear bulkhead of the vehicle. Raise the hitch and
bumper beam back into position on the studs, center and loosely reinstall the nuts removed in step 5.
7. Torque all 10mm fasteners to 42 lb-ft.
8. Reinstall bumper beam foam and trim the bumper cover as shown in the Bumper Cover Trim diagram above.
9. Reinstall the bumper cover, mud flaps (if present) and tail lights.

I don't see the words "drill", "muffler", or "cut" anywhere. Full installation guide with pictures here: https://assets.curtmfg.com/masterlibrar ... 10_INS.PDF

From what I have seen there are two versions of hitches for an outback, the one you mentioned (although they do not use the word "cut" they use Trim instead for the bumper fascia).
And another that mounts under the vehicle which entails drill and muffler.

Depends on the brand of hitch.

Arguing for the sake of arguing is something I am not going to engage in.

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I have to say: if this Curt #13410 hitch had been available for ~$150 five years ago, I probably would have done that rather than the Gen4 OEM product. The bumper beam sandwich mounting employed in these two puts the load where the unibody is most built up for strength, unlike earlier aftermarket products that mounted on the underside of the Gen4 unibody (and did involve drilling). Subaru's Gen4 hitch had some additional forgings/weldments to distribute part of the load directly onto the bumper support trunks inboard/forward from the bumper beam mount plane, but I have always suspected that these might be overkill when the car's max US tow/tongue ratings are not exceeded.